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| The Paranormal | |
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| Topic Started: 22 Sep 2008, 02:52 AM (477 Views) | |
| Gabriel Zero | 22 Sep 2008, 02:52 AM Post #1 |
 
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Lately, I've been thinking about the paranormal, whether it be ghosts, spirits, even things such as telekinesis and astral projection. While browsing the net about these things, I've noticed many people have posted stories of their own experiences with the supernatural, and I'm in a slump as to whether to believe it or not. There have been reports posted about a girl in Russia that can see through peoples skin, and into their bodies. There have been statements of people having out of body experiences and knowing what family members are thinking. Has anybody ever experienced anything paranormal? Or do you not believe in the supernatural, and if not, why not? |
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| Miss Skizzy | 27 Sep 2008, 09:47 AM Post #2 |
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I feel that the paranormal, much like religion, is portrayed as a personal experience. Therefore there's no real evidence of it, just because someone says that they can see ghost's doesn't mean they can. And even then it could just be a neurological malfunction. Now if I saw a ghost or levitated myself, then I'd believe it  But I know that there'd be people calling me a liar too, so it's really just a catch 22.
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| Volcove | 27 Sep 2008, 10:24 AM Post #3 |
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Well, you know, the Paranormal, you're looking at him. |
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| That Guy | 27 Sep 2008, 04:26 PM Post #4 |
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I can't really say that i believe in the paranormal. The so-called " ghost hunter" shows or anything along those lines don't exactly help my belief. They rarely ever find anything. (and they could have easily staged any of it.) Though sometimes, when I'm alone in a room, I get an eerie chill. I don't know if I'd call it paranormal, though. |
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| neurotoxin05 | 27 Sep 2008, 10:16 PM Post #5 |
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I don't really believe in the paranormal. (Those ghost hunter shows are so ridiculous, I watch them just for kicks and giggles.) But I do believe in heaven. |
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| DarknessReigns | 28 Sep 2008, 12:21 AM Post #6 |
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Miss Skizzy has a point about it being somewhat like religion. ...I don't believe it myself, but I do find it fascinating. (Much like I find religion fascinating, but you don't see me preaching all over the place.) I really would like to believe in a lot of things, reincarnation, paranormal, etc, etc. I'm really skeptical, though, but easily awestruck. I'm sort of complicated, but if say... I dunno, someone who I was sure I didn't know and didn't know me told me stuff about myself or honestly reached me somehow then I'd probably inch towards believing it, but not fully. Just like religion. 
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| Serin | 28 Sep 2008, 04:40 AM Post #7 |
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My honest opinion, I do. I won't go into detail, but I respect that you all don't believe it, because you most likely haven't had any experiences with it. I personally grew up having experiences. I said before, I don't think I'll go into detail, but things have happened to me that swayed me. But as for the ghost hunter shows. Yeah, they're mostly bull crap. Trust me, I can vouch for the fact that those guys are a bunch of fakes and liars. Especially those fakes on "Most Haunted"... The Possession in "The Excorcist" was more believable than that guy's. |
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| That Guy | 28 Sep 2008, 04:50 AM Post #8 |
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So i guess we're all in agreement that ghost shows give the paranormal a bad name. I don't think I've had experiences, not that I know of anyway. But those eerie feelings i get when I'm alone in a lit room give me the creeps. |
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| Ivy Vines | 6 Oct 2008, 12:02 AM Post #9 |
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IM STUCK IN THE DECISION TOO! I often say its justy crap-but i have no proof! The school i went to before the one i go to now was eerie! Everyone thought it was haunted-including me, i was only in first grade then though. Alot of weird things happened to me there. The freakiest one was that we had an art room for after school activities, like clubs and stuff. But there were no clubs just a program, and i heard screaming and OMG's coming from it. I walked into the room and one of the clay spinners was spinning by itself. It stopped, then started again, and it did that several times. One of the girls was actually brave enough to go and sit on it, it stopped when she did. I asked a staff member if they were automatic, he said they were not. So i was confused. |
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| Ladie Luck | 6 Oct 2008, 09:09 PM Post #10 |
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I believe in the paranormal. I can't exactly say why in much detail but I simply don't disbelieve it. There's always a glimmer of truth within every myth. So many people recount tales of paranormal expiriences that it makes it hard to deny that things of a parnormal nature could exist. And I just love to read about things like that. 
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| Serin | 7 Oct 2008, 12:44 AM Post #11 |
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Yeah, I agree. Within every myth, there's always a tidbit of nonfiction that lead to the breeding of said myth. |
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| Sarge | 7 Oct 2008, 12:47 AM Post #12 |
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There are parts of the paranormal that I believe in, such as ghosts, spirits, other-worldy beings, ect. But I will not believe in all the telepathy, ESP, mind reading crap. |
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| Ivy Vines | 7 Oct 2008, 12:56 AM Post #13 |
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yes yes-no telepathy |
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| Serin | 13 Oct 2008, 04:48 AM Post #14 |
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Yeah, I agree with that... Though I'm not going to mark off the idea of Clairvoyance, and Retrovoyance. In fact I believe it's quite a bit of a possibility. I'm not going state my reasons why I believe it, for the same reasons as before, so that's all I'm saying. |
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| Ivy Vines | 14 Oct 2008, 11:21 PM Post #15 |
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indeed |
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| heflo | 16 Oct 2008, 02:51 AM Post #16 |
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Believe it or not, I've seen a ghost before. When I was five, my parents and I drove to a wedding and stayed at this really old hotel for a night. So, being little, my parents got a cousin of mine to babysit me in the hotel room while they went and had some drinks. My cousin fell asleep, but I was still awake long after midnight. And right before i fell asleep, the door opened and a shimmering lady came in the room. She wore a really old dress, and had long red curls. I don't remember much more, but I do remember what she said. It was creepy too - it echoed in my head. I've had dreams of her every once in a while since then.
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| Nuviev | 16 Oct 2008, 07:03 PM Post #17 |
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For me the paranormal is, ironically, normal life. However where I grew up had a high Native American population, and one of the elders told me "Don't worry, you're just Indian..you're going to have this happen a lot." So aye, I've seen a lot. It's one of those things you disbelieve until it happens to you - or like some people, you disbelief feverently ESPECIALLY if it happens to you. My tuppence. Edited by Nuviev, 16 Oct 2008, 07:03 PM.
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| DeFalco | 16 Oct 2008, 07:26 PM Post #18 |
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I'll agree that certain things are harder to believe without any personal experiences of your own to speak of, but things typically outside of our understanding is a difficult thing to "believe" anyway. They say that "seeing is believing", but if one doesn't know exactly what it is they see, then how can they understand anything to a point of true belief? In any case, I've had my own experiences in the past, but it's nothing I need to go into here as I don't believe sharing it serves a purpose in the long run. Despite those things, however, I can't say that I easily buy the concept of mediums, telepaths, etc., though it is probably because the ones you see in the media appear so...phony. The whole concept surrounding those you see on television seems so hokey and over the top that it's difficult to take seriously. Those people mentioned earlier from the Most Haunted show are people I can rarely take seriously. Sure, the lore of the locations they go to can be rather fascinating, but in the end, they look at the situation with the utter belief that such a locations is actually haunted, and it is my belief that if those ideas are already within the mind when one walks into a situation, then the mind will find ways to make certain things happen in order to fit the bill. Imagination is a wonderful thing in such scenarios. And whether it's fake or not, I do enjoy watching Ghost Hunters, mainly because of the way they approach their cases. They don't use dried up mediums or perform a sayance (sp?) to call out the spirits that are assumed to be there. But they look at it from a different perspective, initially walking into each case with the mentality that it's not haunted at all and seek to find ways to disprove each claim and present other forms of evidence to show how things aren't exactly as they would seem. Whether it's all scripted or not, I still enjoy the way they perform their investigations. In the end, however, yes, I believe in the paranormal because I have had my own personal experiences during most of my life thus far that have brought me to accept the possibility that such things truly do exist. I respect those who do not believe, and I never try to convince them otherwise. To each his own, and I wouldn't want anyone to try to force their beliefs on me, so I would never try as well. What I believe is for my own peace of mind, and if that includes thoughts of ghoulies and astral projection, than so be it. lol |
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| Alunea | 16 Oct 2008, 10:36 PM Post #19 |
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To be honest, the more I'm looking for info about paranormal stuff, how creepier it get when I'm alone in my own home. So I don't try to pay much attention to it. And serious not to summon... Well ofcourse cool you've summond a ghost... BUT what then? And Gwyn.. Well with seeing is believing... I think... If you feel. or hear... It's creepy enough... I've had my own experiences... But I actually wondered, if there are ghosts and that sort of stuff.. Could we assume that there would be angels too? My guess is yea, my experience says: for sure. But I want to hear more opinions.. 
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| Nuviev | 16 Oct 2008, 10:44 PM Post #20 |
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*snicker* that is a point I've made on more than one occasion, as I have many purported "pagan/new age" friends who are always praying to particular deities...and then they freak when said deties/energies show up. Hello? You CALLED on them, what did you expect, just to leave a message on a cell phone somewhere? I don't actually seek to try and "explain" anything. It's not important to me to explain it. All I need to know is "right, that happened, okay, fair enough." I don't look too deeply into why - most of the time, why misses the whole point, it's very Westernised thinking, I suppose. I just do m'thang. What I find interesting is that it seems many other people do as well, but they don't want to talk about it - it's almost like a dirty secret, or they don't want to be called crazy. I find that rather sad and unfair...but I sadly understand it as well. |
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| DeFalco | 17 Oct 2008, 05:27 AM Post #21 |
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Well, the main reason I tend to not talk about my own experiences or the things I've done/not done, is because in my life, I've been exposed to many people who were telling stories and making claims simply for the sake of appearing to be "special" or away from the norm. People want to be unique these days, and I've come across quite a few people who claim to be sensative/psychic/a ghost magnet/what have you, because they wanted the attention. Not saying that anyone here is doing that, but all I'm saying is that those kind of people annoy me, so I'd rather not turn around and look like a hypocrite by spilling my guts on everything that has happened to me while someone else might think I'm lying. In the end, however, other's thoughts of my experiences won't really apply to my life, because it won't change a thing. I'll still believe what I believe because something or another has happened to put me down that path, etc. And yes, seeing, hearing, and feeling can all lead to believing. My earlier reference was simply generalized in the matter, meaning that people these days need hard evidence before they can come to believe anything. Though unless something is seen with the eyes, it is sometimes easy to pass off as nothing, mere imagination, or maybe a disruptive pet in the next room, blah blah blah. I've had experiences with each of those senses, however, but the "feelings" weren't always in the positive, I'll admit. There are some nasty entities out there that don't look at you very kindly. As for angels, to be honest, they aren't anything I've truly thought about in terms of existing or not. In either case, I do believe in "spirit guides", which are described as "an entity that remains a disincarnate spirit in order to act as a spiritual counselor or protector to a living incarnated human being", which some might also consider a "guardian angel" of sorts. Unfortunately for me, I've noticed mine less and less over the years, and felt him the strongest when my life was at a rather horrible low some years back. Since then, however, I feel that he doesn't manefest himself as vividly anymore because things have gotten better since then, and I may not need to "rely" on his presence as much anymore. Do I still think he's there? Sure, but I believe he's just watching quietly from a distance now, rather than being right at my side. Perhaps if life ever takes a turn again, he'll show up once more and things will be like they were, but regardless, I'll consider him an "angel" of sorts, maybe not in the traditional sense of the word, but I'm not sure I consider angels to be all feathers and golden harps fluttering around Heaven, etc. lol |
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| Alunea | 17 Oct 2008, 07:10 AM Post #22 |
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Well, I don't think that either with all the feather and golden harp. But what you say with guardian angels is (for me) true. It's like I'm pulled out of a bad situation and it helps. Well if you are in a bad situation he helps, but if you are then up. You notice it less... And altough you have a 'happy' life. Not like something misses but that you just don't feel so protective anymore. And eugh... with feelings. Well the only thing that I can say about it that it was never nice with me. And then I hope it's my imagionation. ( Serious I could attach many religious things to this, but I try not to.) |
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| musezone | 18 Oct 2008, 02:53 AM Post #23 |
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:mystery: I have never had any paranormal experiences, but I love hearing about them. Even if they're made up, I'm fascinated by ghost stories and such. I don't really know if I believe any of it, but that's just because nothing's happened to me... yet. |
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| Serin | 18 Oct 2008, 10:58 PM Post #24 |
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Yes, god yes. You don't know how many times I've had this talk with the local Wannabe Satanists who don't know what Satanism is all about. I'd go on, but that's saying a bit too much. I'll leave off with this though. No, I'm not a Satanist.
That's also a very agreeable statement. That's basically why I'm keeping myself quiet about it as well. I've encountered a few of those fakers in my day as well... My ex was one of them. And a pain in the ass when it came to it for sure. We were driving down the legendary "Cline Avenue" (It's a ways South of Chicago for those who don't know about it. If you want a history lesson, feel free to PM me.) and she basically started spasming in a very fake manner, until a pulled over and acted like I was trying to snap her out of it. Oh and she was just fine afterwords. No aftershock, no long term effects... Dumb broad. I'd been driving for a very long time and lemme tell ya, dealing with that pissed me off. And finally in "Guardian Angels". I'm not going to disagree with the existence of protective incorporeal entities, divine or otherwise. Hell, I'll even agree that it's more than likely. I could go on about theories, guesses, and evidence, but I won't. |
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| Tyke | 21 Oct 2008, 06:04 PM Post #25 |
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can i say something i thought was paranormal and stil creeps me out? well, my house backs onto a feild, and i lookred out there 1 night and i saw these lighs, theylooked like cats eyes. then i heard a freaky noise, like screaming/screeching. this happened for about 3 months and i was pwtrified. i thought it was a banshee ((i forghot they only exist in ireland apparently)) the real thing: It turns out the lights were unexplainable, but the noise was infact a fox's mating call it is real scary thought! check the links: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U_DqEZos-m0 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0cPg7_nyoBc a CROSS BETWEEN THE TWO WERE THE SOUNDS I HEARD |
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