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Two men have been found guilty of causing or allowing the death of a 17-month-old boy. The child's mother had already admitted allowing or causing the child's death.

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On 2 August 2007 police announced they were dropping an investigation into allegations of child abuse they had launched the previous December.

Baby P's mother was elated and told social workers she would go home to hug her son and bake cakes.

The next morning he was dead.

Baby P, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was pronounced dead shortly after midday on 3 August at the North Middlesex Hospital in Edmonton, north London.

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The post-mortem examination revealed Baby P had suffered:

• Eight broken ribs and a broken back, with another area of bleeding around the spine at neck level.

• Numerous bruises, cuts and abrasions, including a deep tear to his left ear lobe, which had been pulled away from his head.

• Severe lacerations to the top of his head, including a large gouge which could have been caused by a dog bite.

• Blackened finger- and toenails, with several nails missing; the middle finger of his right hand was without a nail and its tip was also missing, as if it had been sliced off.

• A tear to his fraenulum, the strip of skin between the middle of the upper lip and the gum, which had partially healed.

• One of his front teeth had also been knocked out and was found in his colon. He had swallowed it.

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The prosecution claimed the child's back and ribs would have been broken before 1 August, when his mother took him to a child development clinic at St Ann's Hospital where he was seen by Dr Sabah Al-Zayyat.

In a police interview Dr Al-Zayyat said she had been unable to carry out a full physical examination because he was "miserable and cranky".

But in court she said Baby P only cried for a minute or so before she began her physical examination and he was in the room with her for over an hour.

Asked why she apparently changed her evidence she replied that the police had not asked her the right question at the time.

Dr Al-Zayyat denied his back could have been broken when she saw him.

It emerged during the trial that the mother had been placed on a parenting course, had been given stair gates, a fireplace guard and, even, shortly before his death, an offer of a seaside holiday.

This is not the first time Haringey social services has come under the spotlight.

In February 2000 eight-year-old Victoria Climbie was killed in Tottenham after a number of failings by Haringey social services and other agencies.

Siksta Slathalin

14 Nov 2008, 04:46 AM

By the fires of hell. May these S.O.B's forever roast at Satan's feet for all time.

This is why the firing squad should go back to being used as a form of execution.

Catheri

14 Nov 2008, 05:03 AM

Siksta Slathalin

14 Nov 2008, 04:46 AM

By the fires of hell. May these S.O.B's forever roast at Satan's feet for all time.

This is why the firing squad should go back to being used as a form of execution.

Would killing them fix anything? The child is dead.

We need to focus on developing ways to AVOID it happening, not on different ways to kill those who do it.

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But Cat, the sad truth is we CAN'T avoid it. People who are able to do such cruel and inhuman acts to a child who cannot even defend itself and feel nothing...or worse..feel pleasure...They are sick. Very mentally ill. You can't just wave a magic wand and cure everyone who has it of that sick desire. But that absolutely DOES NOT excuse what they did. I agree something should be done. But another fact remains is that we don't have the money or the resources to help everyone. The world would be a much better place if we could.

mondu_the_fat

15 Nov 2008, 04:02 AM

what does this have anything to do with killing them?

And since you said they are sick, then they need help, not execution.

Rippuvan

16 Nov 2008, 01:08 PM

Cat still has a point though. Killing doesn't solve anything. Because you can't really say: 'You can't kill people, but because you did, we kill you!'
It's hypocrisy if you do that, which is why I'm against death penalty. I'm glad we don't have it anymore. Now, as for making those bastards suffer a bit - I'm alright with that. Put them on the good ole' water and bread for the rest of their lives for all I care, but I agree with Cat when she says killing them doesn't solve anything.