Chapter 2 OOC Discussion

[Jacogos]

it's different. Zhao killed the equivalent of a SM squad captain. Kaizen pretty much Killed the Emperor of Mankind (to make a comparison)

So basically, to make a comparison based on proportions...

Kaizan killing Nayamee is a 10/10

while Zhao killing Kaburi is a 2/2.

Yeah. Just let that sink in :P

(and this doesn't even go into all the other aspects of the game... such as treachery... *cough*)

[Cfavano]

True True. But, I think that Roboute Guilliman or Sanguinius could Easily beat her XD Especially because of what Sanguinius and Kaizen have in common.

[Jacogos]

I'll pretend I know what you're talking about... by simply nodding and smiling.

[Cfavano]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VGkcEfXaTo8/TSIMMFbk3WI/AAAAAAAABT0/gDVNilE9tBo/s1600/633658534851368481-SPACEMARINES.jpg

the one with the Spear is Sanguinius

[P.K.]

I'll pretend I know what you're talking about... by simply nodding and smiling.

agreed :3

[Jacogos]

Hm.

Must be the power belt. That's what it is.

[Cfavano]

your sarcasm is amusing XD

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I would actually like to See sanguinius fight kaizen in melee. 'twould be an interesting battle.

[Tolvo]

Uh...A space marine against a person of a middle ages fantasy story...Yeah that wouldn't be super one sided or anything.

[Cfavano]

it wouldn't. it's not super advanced. hell, many worlds in the imperium still use the feudal system, and ride horses. swords and shields are used in combat.

[E1Alpha]

One: What did we actually say about WH40K in this thread?

And two: Cf, if you really think for a moment, you know Space Marines do NOT use any fuedal system anymore when it comes to combat, so stop acting like it's fair.

Anyways. I don't want ANY WH40k talk here anymore.

[Cfavano]

sorry sorry sorry. my fsnboy took over >_< Would it have been better if I talked about Rogal Dorn XD

[E1Alpha]

Cf -_-
Please just try to keep to those few rules I put up for once

[Cfavano]

I doo, it's just sometimes my inner fanboy takes over.

[E1Alpha]

It's fine to mention things once, but just don't start rambling about it.

Honestly, Cf. I suggest you make a thread or RP outside RoW to appease your WH40K needs.

And I want this to be the line below which I see nothing out place anymore:

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[P.K.]

so... O_O how's the reading coming along XD

[Cfavano]

so, how goes the ending of chapter 2?

[E1Alpha]

@P.K.
Been a bit busy with real life things in the meantime, but I'm gonna read it fully before I go to bed

@Cf
I have already explained that I will be working to its end during the next week

[P.K.]

its okay take your time I understand about RL and all :P

[Cfavano]

just making on-topic chatter. is it okay if I try to recruit some other people?

[Tolvo]

Indeed take your time, know that I will be sitting on the edge of my couch biting my nails in anticipation of you saying "Meh."

By the way are we allowed to work on things that don't directly relate to the war? I imagine economics and politics might be a bit important.

[E1Alpha]

RoW is an interactive writing project just as much as it is an RP project
You are allowed to write or work on things you want, but if you're not an official writer, I'll be checking them up big time before I upload them anywhere

You are ofcourse always allowed to have your own RP within the realms, as long as you do not make too drastric decissions without a GM permission or use any of the official NPCs.

[P.K.]

Indeed take your time, know that I will be sitting on the edge of my couch biting my nails in anticipation of you saying "Meh."

must agree :P

[Cfavano]

so, I could write a story in which my newest girl is interrogating a few paladins?

[Tolvo]

I just meant, if we could get benefits from stabilizing political fissures if there are any, strengthening any sort of bonds with labor groups that might be needed to be done. The "Meh" was also a joke, I just don't expect you to think much of my writing in the way of praise.

[E1Alpha]

@Cf
Yes, but no guarantees I'll officially put it up

@Tolvo
Ah, like that. Yes, it is possible to do that, but it won't always be as easy.

[Cfavano]

well, I o want to introduce her little home, but I am unsure how you guys will handle it because....let's just say Auschwitz during WW2 was a much more family friendly place than there

[Tolvo]

Alright cool, yeah Politics are usually very annoying to handle. But a nation divided cannot House.

It's almost as if my two characters have the opposite political uses.

One's not too bright but he makes for a great image, a soldier of the nation.

The other is a clever man with a slippery tongue, but he's ugly as sin.

If I combined the two of them somehow I'd have the perfect politician.

Will they be something offered as extra side work or would it take up a chapter you think?

[E1Alpha]

They might be. In fact, there are actually certain requirements to make a faction socially and politically unstable. You'll have to discover those requirements yourself, but when that happens, you might be able to reach for your goal.

I also just finished reading you and P.K.'s work. Seems very good, even though it didn't need that much approving as P.K. was already a writer with a lot of work done for RoW.

[Tolvo]

Sweet, and I only had to bite my nails a bit.

Well I imagine Infiltration is going to be involved in destabilizing a nation, but I'll have to wait until Chapter 4 to see about hat since I'm going to be occupied in 3.

[P.K.]

you like it? :oi:

[E1Alpha]

Yes, I like it, P.K. *pats*

[P.K.]

:>

[E1Alpha]

After having been caught up in a lot of different things, I am finally starting to get to finalizing Chapter 2
All writing, both player initiative and intermetso I've received so far has been uploaded onto the faction pages.
Imposter, I will send you a PM shortly to begin with Namar's questioning by Atma
Most likely I will also invite you to join into the Intermetso with Atma/Kelsi

Jacomind, I will be sending you a PM with the things I need fixing for the Aeregos intermetso.

If I forgot anything in the things I've uploaded, or you got questions about anything, toss me a PM.

[Tolvo]

Yay, now everyone gets to see Oko acting overly confident.

You know it has come to my attention that maybe Leongarde isn't in as hot of water as it would seem. Fieranos could crush us yes...But Ekros might be a blessing in disguise.

[E1Alpha]

I'd be more worried about Disgeran. They're got a fair amount of power it seems and they're the furthest away from the Ekro.

[Cfavano]

indeed. aeregos and arches are caught between the hammer and the anvil. From what Max told me of them, and what I found out, I do so hope they are not like the Yuuzon Vong.

[Tolvo]

They just don't strike me as being too much of a threat with their military structure. Unless they do send their most powerful units to the front lines in which case Leongarde really doesn't have anything to combat them.

Especially the magic users, Leongarde really has nothing to stop casters.

[Cfavano]

still, with the fighting between Arch and Aere, as well as the Ekro, both Arch and Aere have 3 enemies to worry about, as well as the dwindling leongarde.

[Tolvo]

Aeregos seems to be doing fairly fine enough to me, though if Ekros does become a problem for them I think Archeos might be able to put our war off for a bit to deal with the super deadly horde to the north and then Disgaren to the South. I don't believe they'll ever fully ally with us though since you know, bloody war and all that. Archeos had one our own betray us, we killed their Queen. That bond isn't going to be strong any time soon.

[Cfavano]

Indeed.

[Tolvo]

You know I remember something in one of the Aeregos characters mentioning that this land was once owned by an ancient civilization. I wonder if it will turn out that it is Ekros.

[Tolvo]

It's also unfortunate that PK is going to get to attempt to escape and steal something of ours before Oko could get more info out of her. It's a shame.

[P.K.]

Its not yours XD she's just stealing back whats rightfully theirs!
I don't think you got to much out of her the first time O-o but thats just me.

[Tolvo]

The personality of the enemy is very important when it comes to predicting their moves. It isn't extremely useful but he did get helpful info out of her. I don't think it's going to give us any real benefit but for the sake of story she gave away a few important things.

[P.K.]

ep sorry double post
>.> internet is having problems over on my side so ya ><

What important info I want to know XD I worked very hard not to give much away.

[Cfavano]

and that's what gave the most away.

[Tolvo]

There's a reason he ended up giving her the water and bread, Shani sang without even realizing it. And no torture was needed.

By the way E1 do you actually like Richard? Does anyone? Because looking back that character just seems like a complete mess, guns with many swords and a shield that blocks magical effects but would still get destroyed by a fireball. Buffs to allies that don't really change much along with the idea of dealing more damage when injured. Not to mention his personality and history are really bland. I don't know, does anyone else think that character was a mistake I might have to live with?

[P.K.]

idk I have not read him yet.

Tolvo your not help your not answering the question XD

[E1Alpha]

I try not to judge characters too much until I've seen them in play, Tolvo :P

[Tolvo]

Well I kind of feel like a jerk because it is a dick thing to ask, but would it be alright if I scrapped Richard and made a new character?

Totally understandable if you say no because it sort of seems like I'm trying to decide on what to wear for a party.

[Cfavano]

so, no prejudice against little miss Venomclaw? XD

[E1Alpha]

Honestly, yes, I don't like it
In my opinion, you need to measure your character BEFORE you apply

BUT
I have given Cf the grace of allowing him to switch out Mildred without any penalties, so I'm going to say I give everyone one penalty-free character switch to make it fair.
So that means if Tolvo or Cf now want to drop a character, it'll be gone forever AND your faction WILL suffer for it.

[P.K.]

Totally understandable if you say no because it sort of seems like I'm trying to decide on what to wear for a party.

Kinda dose O-o

IDK why you guys just don't sit with some of your originals for a while.

[Tolvo]

I think you are right in that I should live with the mistake, and if he dies then I'll create someone new. But I'm not going to just try and kill him off either.

[Cfavano]

in most RPs, it seems like you to actively try and kill off your own chara.

[Tolvo]

Only if they should die.

[P.K.]

and how do you decide if they should or not?

[Tolvo]

Usually common sense, if my character is fight five+ enemies at once I'll almost always kill them off.

[P.K.]

ah okay well if you look it at that way I though you meant a different way XD but okay XD

[Cfavano]

even if they are a jedi, and master of Form III and V?

[Tolvo]

I don't like to make characters that start out as masters.

Also I imagine Star Wars talk should be treated the same way as Warhammer talk. Leave it in the nonsense thread.

[Eddren]

Oh, Tolvo, in response to your pondering earlier about Ekros perhaps having been the ancient civilization:

SEE?
SEE?
DOESN'T IT JUST ALL FIT?

[P.K.]

ponder as we might we will not truly know till later :P

[Tolvo]

PK, I plan to find out.

[P.K.]

I bet you all do :P

[Jacogos]

We will never find out >: D

[Eddren]

Anyhow, in the case that E1 is currently up and active:
How are we to treat Brevsin's training? Will it be like something that keeps him inactive for 1-2 chapters, or will there be a thread for it, or will it not show much except at the end of each chapter, where he's got a slight decrease to the chances of killing himself?
And in addition, could I request now a pair of gloves that keep his natural Tail/Ears repressed, as well as making him incapable of using his power? Perhaps when they're removed, they cause a burst in his abilities with fire Fire, the magnitude equal to that of how many turns he's been wearing them? It'll mean I'll have to challenge myself to use my powers as little as possible until I come up against a General or something that he can't win without them.

[E1Alpha]

I've been pondering how to handle the training myself.

I do believe it will be easiest to arrange it at the end of each chapter, though most likely, I have might Seron give Brevsin additional objectives when he heads into battle.
And about the gloves: I would actually go for ritual bracers. The gloves seem a bit...okaywtf?
The bracers could be specially forged to supress fire based magic, and will have to be removed by forcing the fires you control into the bracer and opening the lock.

So in other words: You'd only be able to remove the bracers by focusing your own power, or by the hand of Seron.

And Tolvo, I'm absolutely with you that characters should not start out as masters of anything, except perhaps things like cooking.
Character development is much more satisfying than wiping the floor with anything from the start just because you have an OP character. That doesn't just count for the player playing the character, but also the people he's playing with and the GM.

[P.K.]

not start out as masters of anything, except perhaps things like cooking.

XD I should be okay then.

[Tolvo]

Although in that vain perhaps I did that poorly with Oko, he seems a bit too intelligent for just being a low ranking nobody.

[E1Alpha]

Intelligence is not a measurement of being a master of a specific kind of skill
Your character can start off as a tactical genius. Don't forget Tolvo, Trust-based Combat RP like this is based off of strategy and decission much more than actual skill.
Oko is perfectly fine.

If there's any character that break the don't-start-as-a-master rule without question, it would be Mildred and Verminathras.

[Tolvo]

Wouldn't Zhao also? Well I guess it's written that people regard him as a master of sorts and a tactical genius, but that could just be a social thing really.

[E1Alpha]

For a moment, I thought Zhao and Kaizan were border-line cases because I believed they both have already been hurt and had seemed to actually had to work HARD to win.
But looking back, it was only Kaizan who executed that properly. Though not as bad as Mildred and Verminathras, Zhao also still suffers from an infection of OP Birthright... Yes I just gave it that name.. Problem, officer?

[Jacogos]

Intelligence is not a measurement of being a master of a specific kind of skill
Your character can start off as a tactical genius. Don't forget Tolvo, Trust-based Combat RP like this is based off of strategy and decission much more than actual skill.
Oko is perfectly fine.

If there's any character that break the don't-start-as-a-master rule without question, it would be Mildred and Verminathras.

Ironic that it's the Disgeran characters xD

To be completely honest I figured Kaizan would fall into that as well, considering how fine-tuned his control of the wind is. I SUPPOSE he has room for improvement, though you wouldn't really infer that based on how he's done so far.

And to 'defend' Verminathras, as an Avatar, it would only make sense (in my mind) that he is imbued with the capability of such power right off the bat. As a character, there's really nothing for him to gain in prowess, and was really only meant to be a purely battle focused character, not RP-based. I suppose that's why I want him to fade away to be replaced by another character, but I won't be satisfied with him doing so until a little backstory feature has been done with him...

[Eddren]

Hmmm...
Looks at Dez and Brev
...Maybe a sudden spurt of forgetfulness?

[E1Alpha]

I havn't seen enough of your characters to determine if their OP Birthright infection is that bad :P

[P.K.]

ya and non of mine can be that way XD they seem to puny now as I read this XD

[Tolvo]

Gyle doesn't seem OP to me, I quite like that character.

[E1Alpha]

Indeed.
Trust me when I say that any GOOD roleplayer enjoys a character that is not perfect much more than an OP killing machine. I know I do.

[Jacogos]

Indeed.
Trust me when I say that any GOOD roleplayer enjoys a character that is not perfect much more than an OP killing machine. I know I do.

I dunno, I kinda enjoy the death scenes with Verm XD

[Tolvo]

And how, when you remove the challenge where is the joy? Nothing is rewarding and pretty much the enemy might as well have not even been there.

[E1Alpha]

Jacomind. Didn't I say GOOD roleplayers enjoy it? >:3

xD Jokes, jokes.

That might be so, but thing is, even though Verminathras is massively OP, you are not afraid of death, and that's what important too: Knowing that character death is possible and not something you have to avoid at all costs.

[Tolvo]

Isn't there something about this called I believe, the Batman Theory?

The reason why it is more interesting to see Batman fight crime. You take the idea of a strong man with a gun that has to be taken down. Superman can just fly in, ignore the bullet breaking the gun. Punch the guy once, and it's done with. Batman has to use gadgets and his wits to distract him, disarm, then actually fight him.

[Eddren]

I still prefer Ironman, because he has a life OUTSIDE of being a hero, and loves to rub it in the faces of everyone else.

[Tolvo]

By the way E1 just for future reference, are we allowed to have characters that are cursed?

[E1Alpha]

Ofcourse. If you explain the curse to me, I see no reason why not. We already have a cursed character even. Cf's Dark Eldar ripoff.

[P.K.]

lol? :P

[Cfavano]

I FOUND NAYAMEE!

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=female+paladin#/d10hwl8

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not a rip off, more of a...tribute XD

[Tolvo]

I don't know, she doesn't look pale enough. Plus where is the rot and slit throat?

[Eddren]

And the blood-spatters from all the people she probably killed beforehand?

[Cfavano]

she's the untouchable grace. even in death, she is beautiful. hopefully aeregos had the decency to bury her with the honor she deserves.

[Eddren]

Yeah, they tossed her in the nearest ditch. What of it?

[Cfavano]

-_-. I doubt they did that.

[Tolvo]

Well I suggest burning the body.

[Jacogos]

I actually have no idea what was done with her body xD I suppose that Archeos returned for it so that they could bury her themselves.

[Cfavano]

I say build a sepulcher and put her in it, like the rest of the fallen warriors in paladin's grove. I sure hope as hell they didn't loot the tombs XD

[Tolvo]

Well there are a few ways to go about it if Aeregos has it. Honor her if we feel like it. But with the situation of Zhao, I kind of doubt that. We could burn her to ensure there is no body for them to feel comfort in finding. Or we could send it to Disgaren, but who knows what use they might actually get out of it.

[Jacogos]

Or we could send it to Disgeran, but who knows what use they might actually get out of it.

I hope fear that that might doom us all xD

[Eddren]

I dunno, J, that would make a lovely peace offering, wouldn't it?

[Tolvo]

Well hey we do have to think of it as eye for an eye with the betrayal and all. Though I think that Aeregos is too morally upright for such a thing. Still hey you never know with a hurt nation.

[Eddren]

They could ALWAYS send the body to Dez. If her body truly IS incapable of rotting, perhaps that's some form of latent Archeos magic that he could absorb...

[Tolvo]

That's another issue, what if they can revive her.

[Eddren]

Then I'll be a very happy boy.
I'LL get to kill her. And when I kill her, she won't get back up.

[Tolvo]

But yeah as I asked earlier before I got a bit sidetracked, are we allowed to create characters with curses upon them? And not something like, "They'll never find true happiness." I mean, "Weak to mental effects, wind effects, may not be resurrected with a soul orb," etc?

[E1Alpha]

I already answered that question, Tolvo: YES

[P.K.]

I think E said yes to that :P

[Eddren]

Now that I've read through all the Intermetsos that have been posted twice, I wanna get started. ^^

[Tolvo]

Oops, I missed it with all the talk of dead Queens. Thanks E1. I bet you're wondering what sort of crazy plan I have for someone to start off cursed, well it involves stupid risks that will surely result in the death of my characters! It's fool proof!

But only if Oko dies which I'm hoping won't happen too soon.

Yes I'm quite interested in getting started as well, perhaps we should annoy E1. That won't cause him to get annoyed or anything.

[E1Alpha]

I wouldn't do that, Tolvo :3

I'm the kind of GM who needs to be in da zone the mood and has to have enough inspiration to do something.
Annoying me isn't helping with that :P

[Tolvo]

I know, I'm the same way.

I just like to sarcastically suggest absolutely terrible ideas whenever I can.

By the way PK I'm wondering if Shani figured out anything about Aeregos through Oko's words.

[P.K.]

if she did O-o I didn't

[Eddren]

Hey E1, you should increase our Character Limit to three. 'Cause I have a fun character idea, but I don't want to stop playing either of my other characters.

[P.K.]

haven't we tried this before? XD

[Tolvo]

That wouldn't be hell for him to set up or anything. Not to mention it could get pretty confusing. I'd love to play another character but I think two is a good limit.

[Jacogos]

It needed to be tried again :P

[E1Alpha]

Like Tolvo said before, two proves to be a good limit right about now. Things are already pretty hectic as it is, so don't count on the character limit raising up to three any time soon.

[Cfavano]

you aren't gonna go extr hard on anna because she's not good at fighting, are you, E1?

[Jacogos]

you aren't gonna go extr hard on anna because she's not good at fighting, are you, E1?

I find the irony of this statement very amusing.

WHO'S WITH ME?!

[Tolvo]

I've got my fingers crossed.

[Cfavano]

Seriously, I want her to have fun. She is a good RPer, just not at the Slashy-stabbity

[Tolvo]

I know I won't go easy on her...Provided any of my characters live long enough to face any of hers, or if I see a reason to even face them.

[Cfavano]

I'm not saying go easy. I'm just saying to not exploit her lack of combat knowledge, and actively seek her out.

[Jacogos]

I'll give her as much of a chance as I'd give Pichu.

Seeing as I haven't faced either of Pichu's characters (directly), you might never know how fair or unfair that is >: D

[P.K.]

I'll give her as much of a chance as I'd give Pichu.

Seeing as I haven't faced either of Pichu's characters (directly), you might never know how fair or unfair that is >: D

well we did have a dueling thread >.>

[Eddren]

Well, it's quite simple.
As long as her characters agree to fight under the banner of Dezeroth, she will never have to worry about what I may or may not do.

[P.K.]

I'm not saying go easy. I'm just saying to not exploit her lack of combat knowledge, and actively seek her out.

I wont I'll tell you that.

[Tolvo]

I won't actively seek her out unless I should. But in combat if I want her character to die, I'll go for it. This is a game about combat after all.

Not to mention I won't go easy on her to discover she's a veteran that takes advantage of me going easy on her. Nice try if that is the case.

[Cfavano]

not at all. ask E1.

[P.K.]

I have not seen to much of her fighting ability but of her Oc's are anything like SAO then she may or may not last very long.

[Cfavano]

no, she's being serious this time. She's being a Paladin.

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Angie was made to Compliment Sam as a Love Interest.

[Tolvo]

Also I have a feeling we won't be seeing SillyGod, I have no idea what happened to him. I assume that he is a bit occupied IRL but I haven't heard from him.

[E1Alpha]

Cf.
Asking me to go easy on her is like asking me to throw RoW down the gutter and empty a bin of radioactive waste on it.
I will treat all players accordingly (except for Tolvo, I'm gonna go all hell on him). My main rule is: If you don't know how you can handle, don't take too much on your fork. That and do NOT make a character that looks OP in my book, because that is like painting a big, red target on your face and ass for me. The more OP you are in MY eyes, the more I will do my best to get you killed.
And knowing that you have a tendency of making characters for your friends, that is a warning specifically directed at you.

[Tolvo]

I love the sound of this hell.

[Jacogos]

I love the sound of this hell.

Masochistic much? xD

[Tolvo]

I'm big into Dark Souls, this is the sort of stuff I love.

I expect E1 to make me his bitch, and I'm going to love every second of it. I love being challenged even if it ends in my defeat. I feel I learn much more from that than I would any victory.

[Eddren]

I don't suppose I have to worry about E1 going hell on me.
He'll do it simply because my characters are built to handle it.

[Tolvo]

Aw yeah, Hell Mode brothers.

[Cfavano]

actually, except for the concept, it's all her.

[Jacogos]

I expect E1 to make me his bitch, and I'm going to love every second of it.

That statement is going to haunt you for the rest of your life.

I hope you realize that. xD

[Tolvo]

I stand by it.

[Cfavano]

and trust me, she does not make OP charas. Hell, she might be UP.

[P.K.]

no, she's being serious this time. She's being a Paladin.

okay then will see how she dose and teach her how to survive :3 thats all we can do.


Cf.
Asking me to go easy on her is like asking me to throw RoW down the gutter and empty a bin of radioactive waste on it.
I will treat all players accordingly (except for Tolvo, I'm gonna go all hell on him). My main rule is: If you don't know how you can handle, don't take too much on your fork. That and do NOT make a character that looks OP in my book, because that is like painting a big, red target on your face and ass for me. The more OP you are in MY eyes, the more I will do my best to get you killed.
And knowing that you have a tendency of making characters for your friends, that is a warning specifically directed at you.

Oh dear then why is it both my Oc's have face generals?! o-o both of them BOTH!


I love the sound of this hell.

>.> thats... creepy.

[Tolvo]

I love difficulty PK, it makes everything feel rewarding when you do well. Not to mention if E1 really goes out if I make mistakes and die, then I'll have to learn from my mistakes. If I don't, then my characters deserve to die.

Also I'd have to say probably the most Underpowered character in the RP is probably Shani. She's basically just a regular person caught up in a war. Perhaps that is why she is my favorite.

[P.K.]

well ya I can understand that XD in a since anyways.

wait Shani is your favorite?
Naww that makes me feel good that I mad an OC people like >.>

[Eddren]

That's actually WHY I choose such impossible-to-reach goals, such as converting everyone in the world to a certain set of beliefs, or becoming a God by defeating the most powerful characters in the game and taking their powers.
Mind you, I actually also prefer to have everyone ELSE playing powerful characters, but still.

[Cfavano]

I just saw her chara, and I think you all will be very pleased. she is in no way OP.

[Tolvo]

She seems fine, there isn't much to her but that does leave room for the character to grow. Her armor probably won't be very effective though. No one ever seems to make very effective female armor for some reason.

[Jacogos]

I can only hope that's more for her appearance rather than her actual armor xD

[Cfavano]

you don't know? Fantasy Female armor uses a lot of reverse psychology.

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I got 4 words for y'all 'I Told You So'

[Love Amore]

Nobody makes good female armor because most of the blacksmiths are men, and all Y'all see in a woman is T&A so why would they fit armor to anywhere else?

And Cf, stop gloating about the work that I did.

[Tolvo]

Lower torso exposed, inner thighs. Heavy bleeding zones.

I think you'll come to notice I care not for T&A, so I wouldn't worry about that distracting me.

[Love Amore]

So YOU make the armor, maybe then it'll be worth wearing.

[Tolvo]

Unfortunately I have no blacksmith characters.

[Cfavano]

or charas in archeos. and that's why, because they doubted you, my love.

[Love Amore]

Anna's rule of life #3,041: Never doubt a pageant girl.

[Cfavano]

I never doubted you *eskimo kisses her*

[Jacogos]

I never doubted you *eskimo kisses her*

THAT'S gonna get annoying really fast xD

I think I've finally figured out what my replacement for Verminathras is going to be. Might shoot some ideas by E1, though.

[Cfavano]

NOOOOOOOOO Kep Verm, get rid of that birdbrained Kaizen. either that or have him Kiss Samarra for the love of god, you could cut the sexual tension with a knife -_-

[Love Amore]

Well clearly you didn't doubt me darling, since you're the one who convinced me to join.

If we get too gooey feel free to smack him.

[Cfavano]

but be careful, I smack back with a set of lightning claws XD

[Tolvo]

How about Kaizen just doesn't do anything sexual and he focused on the war? I'd like that a lot more.

[Cfavano]

it would be kinda unrealistic. Kaizen IS a scoundrel after all.

[Tolvo]

Oh, so you mean he can...Do whatever he pleases? Like focus on the war if its in his interest.

[Eddren]

How about you let HIM decide how his characters should be roleplayed?

[Eddren]

By the way, Anna, if you were looking for effective armor, you should have joined Scaravus.
I don't give a whole lot of thought to T&A, much to Cf's suspicion that I simply don't care about what they're attached to, and I also happen to play Dezeroth.
Who can subsequently magically forge armor. Mind you, don't expect it to be enchanted or anything--But at least you'll never have to worry about your stomach being carved like a pumpkin on Halloween.

[Cfavano]

oh believe me, she won't be XD and just like you and max have plans, WE have plans too

[Love Amore]

Plans, yep. Darling, you better appreciate how very lucky you are.

[Tolvo]

Edd this should be fun.

[Cfavano]

every day I think that. I wake up and go to sleep with you on my mind.

[Tolvo]

I can already tell a smack won't be enough, we are probably going to need to hit these two with a car on a daily basis.

[Cfavano]

I will powerfist you into oblivion and then hurl oblivion into the inner core -_-

[Love Amore]

I'd, personally, prefer a paddle...

[Tolvo]

Well I don't think I'll be using the OOC thread much anymore.

[Cfavano]

XD *holds paddle* Max is squeamish around affection. I think he is a highly sophisticated AI.

[Tolvo]

I wouldn't say squeamish, I'd say highly annoyed/pissed off. Also remember there is a nonsense thread for a reason Cf.

[Cfavano]

well then, TO THE NONSENSE THREAD! *pulls Anna with him*

[Love Amore]

AI or not we should respect his limits and try not to make him uncomfortable, right?

[Tolvo]

By the way Edd I think I'm going to hold off on that Scarv character if Richard dies. Leongarde only has me as a player and while I think it's a sinking ship I should probably see it to the end.

[Tolvo]

By the way E1, what exactly would you describe a Leongarde healer as? I imagine the other groups have magic based ones but I was wondering if perhaps medically they were a bit more advanced than other nations.

[E1Alpha]

Leongarde and Scaravus are similar when it comes to their healers.
They are both non-magic users overal, but the Leongardian healers are more skilled when it comes to treating physical wounds and such. See them as medieval surgeons.
The Scaravian healers are more skilled at lifting pain and curing diseases and infections.

[Tolvo]

Yikes, meaning we might as well not have healers. Aw man.

[E1Alpha]

Well, if you're looking for good healers, then Archeos is what you need. Their clerics and priests are the best healers available.

[Tolvo]

Well I'm just trying to see if Leongarde has strengths and I was kind of hoping the advanced thing extended there.

What of our siege weaponry?

[E1Alpha]

Leongarde has the most advanced siege weaponry, yes.
Most the time, they will deploy ballistas, but for large assaults, they also have access to trebuchets, siege towers, battering rams and for defense, they also employ some heavy duty cannons.

[Tolvo]

Now if only Archeos next to us instead of Fieranos. I imagine Siege weaponry is essentially useless considering what they have. Perhaps against Disgeran's infernals though. Since that might be the only way we can even hurt those creatures is from a mass of stone. Plus they have those hounds but we have no magic. Man I would kill to have those hounds...I wonder.

[Eddren]

What's this I hear about Cf and Anna volunteering to be the first to die by the hands of Tolvo and I?
...And some other benefactors who may or may not want to be mentioned?

[Cfavano]

Har de har har, edd. Scaravus and firanos are nowhere near striking distance from us.

[Eddren]

Firanos is, as I recall: http://role-player.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32587
A river away from you. Not a particularly daunting river, either.

Not to mention if all goes well, I won't have much to worry about when it comes to the boundaries of Scaravus. It'll be gone, and I can have Dezeroth and whoever decides to join him moved through the Ilean Mountains, beyond the Lion Woods, past the River, and into the promised lands.

[Tolvo]

Across the river fire volleys are probably hell to deal with.

[Eddren]

XP
Paladin: 'What's the burning skin smell?! Are we under attack?'
Other guy: 'Nope. Just the Fierans, sending their morning greetings.'

[Tolvo]

Not to mention how destructive fire is when it comes to naval units.

[Cfavano]

I wonder if they have their own version of greek fire.

[Tolvo]

Probably, called shooting it from their hands.

[Cfavano]

XD

[Tolvo]

I am hoping we can finally get some knights on the battlefield.

[Tolvo]

I'm also hoping we can deploys our troops in general a bit better. The Shieldguard should really go west against Disgeran while our Lion Men should go north for tactical strikes.

[Cfavano]

there are knights. Cretoris is something of a knight.

[Tolvo]

The Knight units of Leongarde.

[Cfavano]

Knights are overrated XD.

[Tolvo]

I'd say a bit under rated. Considering armor means nothing in a world full of magic they're pretty much useless aside from their speed. Frankly I'm surprised the shieldguard still get deployed. Still they might be useful to the west against normal Disgeran troops. But if there are Warlocks or Infernals, we'll definitely lose the battle.

[Jacogos]

How about you let HIM decide how his characters should be roleplayed?

I like this idea. I like it a lot xD

Mostly because Kaizan is already a sergeant, so I DEFINITELY will not be killing him off anytime soon :P


I can already tell a smack won't be enough, we are probably going to need to hit these two with a car on a daily basis.

*lowers the sniper rifle* ... Fine we'll do it YOUR way


I'd, personally, prefer a paddle...

*opens mouth, then closes it and lowers my hand, first finger outstretched*


XP
Paladin: 'What's the burning skin smell?! Are we under attack?'
Other guy: 'Nope. Just the Fierans, sending their morning greetings.'

I love you people xD


I'm also hoping we can deploys our troops in general a bit better. The Shieldguard should really go west against Disgeran while our Lion Men should go north for tactical strikes.

I'm sure rising through the ranks will give you a benefit like that or something. I'd hope *looks askance at Kaizan*

[Tolvo]

Well ranking up is something neither of my characters will do. So far it seems ranking up comes from killing NPC's and neither of my characters are capable of that. Richard is designed for working with troops to buff them and deal with tactical threats. Oko is more of a thinker and doesn't have much use in combat. So those two should never rank up.

[Jacogos]

Well ranking up is something neither of my characters will do. So far it seems ranking up comes from killing NPC's and neither of my characters are capable of that. Richard is designed for working with troops to buff them and deal with tactical threats. Oko is more of a thinker and doesn't have much use in combat. So those two should never rank up.

Well with that attitude, sure xD

I highly doubt E1 would have it all focused on NPC kills and such. I'm sure Oko at least will figure something out.

[Tolvo]

Well if you aren't doing a whole lot for the war why would you rank up in the military? It just wouldn't make sense.

Not to mention Richard really isn't a battlemaster, he's a grunt.

[E1Alpha]

Actually... Ranking up comes from doing things that greatly affect the outcome of a battle or succeeding in some other amazing feat (without dying).

One of the things that's valid for that is succesfully killing the enemy commander, but there are more options. It's up to you to discover those.

[Tolvo]

Well then there lies the other side, with hell mode enabled I doubt I'm going to be allowed to influence a battle much or survive it. Ranks just don't seem like something that will be coming my way but I'm fine with that.

[P.K.]

Leongarde and Scaravus are similar when it comes to their healers.
They are both non-magic users overal, but the Leongardian healers are more skilled when it comes to treating physical wounds and such. See them as medieval surgeons.
The Scaravian healers are more skilled at lifting pain and curing diseases and infections.

Except for Karrha XD

[E1Alpha]

Ofcourse, she's a PC :P

[P.K.]

you don't know? Fantasy Female armor uses a lot of reverse psychology.

True and it gets very annoying.

and I had a talk about this with my GM when first playing PF

The less they wear the more protected they are.
No this dose not really work in real life >.<
anyways.

I missed a lot and hello O_O

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Ofcourse, she's a PC :P

^-^

[Tolvo]

Actually perhaps our Lion Men shouldn't be sent to Fieranos. Considering Fieranos is the land of fire flamy spells go shwoom, and the Lion Men like to travel through trees. I feel like that could be a very big boo boo.

[P.K.]

singed fur :P and tails caught unfire.

[Tolvo]

I'm just trying to figure out if we have anything that is useful against Fieranos. Maybe our Marskmen, maybe. I still don't know if their Magi out range them or even the number of shooters we have. Not to mention unless they are large in number they would not be able to deal enough damage to counter the Magi.

[Jacogos]

Actually perhaps our Lion Men shouldn't be sent to Fieranos. Considering Fieranos is the land of fire flamy spells go shwoom, and the Lion Men like to travel through trees. I feel like that could be a very big boo boo.

I feel like fur also catches fire more often than skin. xD

As for the musketeers, I feel like those are direct counters to any magic users. No armor to take the bullet, they're outta there.

[E1Alpha]

I can already tell you, Tolvo.
At long range, Fieran fire magi become pretty damn innacurate, while Leongarde's marksmen will still be able to hit their target decently.

[Tolvo]

But will accuracy matter that much for them when they can wipe out entire platoons? I mean an poorly thrown grenade is still extremely deadly. It seems like each Magi can kill a platoon with each cast. Maybe our shooters can snipe them but even then I'm doubting we could pull that off. Perhaps if we had knights harassing their flanks to try and mitigate their swordsman while our Shieldguard deal with the full brunt. Having our snipers shoot at their Magi. But that would require a lot of special units from our side to ensure such a victory and that would be pretty unfair since I believe Fieranos has more resources currently.

[E1Alpha]

Perhaps, but keep in mind that a bullet can come from anywhere and immediatly give away its position, while a fireball. Well... Fire it and they'll instantly know where you are.

[Tolvo]

If only we didn't have so many ranged characters already I could have made that sniper, perhaps he would have been useful. Then again that would probably be really boring. It would just be me saying, "Fires at a magi." Then you rolling a die to see if he hits or misses.

[Jacogos]

Perhaps, but keep in mind that a bullet can come from anywhere and immediatly give away its position, while a fireball. Well... Fire it and they'll instantly know where you are.

I think you might want to check your grammar there xD

[E1Alpha]

Actually. No.
1. I would be the one deciding if you missed or hit
And
2. A Leongardian sniper can have much more purposes than just shooting. Ever heard of a spotter? Combine that with a trebuchet. What do you get?

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Nein, furher Grammar Nazeih!

[Tolvo]

Someone who is going to be killed by a bunch of fire volley. And I said you would be deciding.

[P.K.]

Karrha is a ranged healer.
She can do more wither she's good at it or not.
I mean she kinda had to if she wanted to stay alive. Being a archer is not all that boring XD

[E1Alpha]

My bad, Tolvo, but still. I don't roll a die for that kind of thing.
I simply analyse the situation, and decide the most logic course of action, while also looking if you earned a possibly profitable outcome.
Though ofcourse the latter won't be applied to you anymore, as per your own request :3

[Tolvo]

That's what I like to hear.

I'm wondering how you will kill off Richard.

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That's what I like to hear.

I'm wondering how you will kill off Richard.

[Jacogos]

That's what I like to hear.

I'm wondering how you will kill off Richard.

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That's what I like to hear.

I'm wondering how you will kill off Richard.

Hopefully it will be during a Disgeran fight. Then he can come to me for council about the most gruesome and outrageous way possible >: D

[Tolvo]

Well it's not like you'll have to try hard to kill him man.

He's a man who wears armor in a world where armor means nothing, using a normal weapon, that likes to charge headfirst into combat and act as a guardian. I wouldn't be surprised if he dies during his second post.

[P.K.]

why are you guys making Oc's that your purposely trying to kill DX I find it quite fun to try and KEEP my Oc's alive.

[Tolvo]

I'm not trying to kill any of my characters. But if I feel they should die I'll have them die.

[Eddren]

Mainly because Tolvo changes characters like socks.

[Tolvo]

I can't help it, sometimes my socks get holes in them and I wish to buy a new pair.

[Cfavano]

He holds no respect for his own charas, which is tragic.

[Tolvo]

I have a great amount of respect for my characters, I just treat them like the tools they are. Characters are a tool to be used to aid in the telling of a story. While I like my characters usually and wish to see them succeed, I still distance myself from them. So that I may make decisions without being blinded by my own bias.

[Cfavano]

but still. E1 had to ORDER you to give Lestoph a good death. You were just gonna drop him in a ditch.

[Tolvo]

Because it was fitting of his character, Lestoph had no respect for himself and wished to die and not be regarded as a hero. He felt he was a monster that should have been forgotten. Personally I think his death was disrespecting of his character but I had to do it so I did it.

[Cfavano]

if he thought himself a monster, why did he join leongarde after leaving disgeran? why didn't he just fling himself off a cliff?

[Tolvo]

I suppose you never even read his character sheet then.

Next time Cf before you try to assume a lot about a character, you should actually read up on who they are.

[Cfavano]

I did read it. I just forgot.

[Tolvo]

I was curious about something, how long ago did the nations form? Is it known or is that information lost to time?

[E1Alpha]

The exact date is lost, though it is known which ones are older than the other.
From oldest to youngest:
Aeregos
Leongarde
Disgeran
Archeos
Scaravus
Firanos

[Tolvo]

Alright, thanks.

[Tolvo]

Another quick question. Seeing as Dragons, giant Scorpions, and magic hunting hounds exist in this world. I was wondering if there are other mythic creatures to consider. Or is it that those that exist are already listed, and otherwise they have standard wildlife.

[Cfavano]

how long till the rest of the intermetsos are done? and why did you name them that?

[Tolvo]

Another quick question. Seeing as Dragons, giant Scorpions, and magic hunting hounds exist in this world. I was wondering if there are other mythic creatures to consider. Or is it that those that exist are already listed, and otherwise they have standard wildlife.

Didn't want to get bottom paged.

[E1Alpha]

@Tolvo
I will still see your post even if you get bottompaged
There are other mythical creatures, which I will be sure to reveal in due time, but if you need a specific kind of creature for anything, you can lay it out to me if that one is present or not.

@Cf
The intermetsos will be done somewhere this week, and then it'll go very fast until the start of Chapter 3
I intend to have Chapter 3 kicking into gear before my holidays end
And I named them that because I lacked inspiration for a better name.

[Tolvo]

Well if there are any known ones in Aeregos or Leongarde.

If that isn't specific enough, creatures that are important culturally and ones that are domesticated.

[E1Alpha]

For Leongarde, the only real mythical creatures are the Lionhearted, and I don't think it's hard to realize they aren't domesticated
There is another rare mythical beast, but there's no way you'd have access to it as it's one of a kind (SPOILER)

In Aeregos, drakelings are a possibility for domesticated pets, but they belong only to the higher ranks of the social economy. They are like miniature dragons with no real combat capability. Abuse of these critters is severely punished here aswell. Other than that, you have riding dragons that can be domesticated, but that's it.

[Tolvo]

Alright cool, thanks. I wasn't looking to tame anything I was just wanting to get a better understanding of the lands I was in.

[Tolvo]

Actually that does bring up a good question for future reference, if a person does have a pet or mount where exactly is that to be listed in the character sheet?

[E1Alpha]

Trivia is always a good place for that

[Tolvo]

Also I'm assuming normal wildlife would be things typically found in such settings? Forests have wolves, deserts have lizards, rivers have fish, and the skies have blimps advertising fast food chains...And birds.

[E1Alpha]

Sounds about right. Especially the blimps.