Both were quiet a moment. Then Mary's husband asked, "The Vava and those with him were from the same place in the East that the men who came to us were, and those men brought us gifts when they saw you. The Vava was reacting to the aggressive response of the occupying military. If he is on the side of those who brought gifts, how is it you called the Vava the enemy?"
"He is the enemy. He is not on the side of those who came to you. He wanted to destroy the new king he heard about, to make his kingdom grow this way, closer to here."